COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING
STEERING COMMITTEE
MINUTES
OCTOBER 23, 2006
Meeting was called to order at 7:00 P.M. by David Wood.
Present: Dave Wood
CPSC, Alan Grattidge TB, Marv Schorr CPSC, Dave Adams CPSC, Sandy Verola TB,
Doug Salisbury TB, Bruce Gardner TB, Ray Black PB, Mark Hodgkins PB, Christy
Schrader CPSC, Gary Vanderhorst CPSC, Lynda Battenhausen CPSC, Guy Mitchell
CPSC, Jim Leupold CPSC, Sally Ellms CPSC, Dot Mitchell CPSC, Dawn Szurek CPSC,
Connie Wood PB, Chris Mitchell, PB.
The first order of business was to approve the minutes of
the October 2, 2006 meeting. A motion
was made by Gary Vanderhorst to approve the minutes with edits, seconded by
Christy Schrader. Motion carried.
Dave Wood stated the purpose of tonight’s meeting with the
joint boards was to gain a better understanding and support for the draft
comprehensive plan. The CPSC is looking
for input from the Planning Board and the Town Board before scheduling a public
hearing. Dave said there are to be two
public hearings. One will be the CPSC
presentation of the plan to the public.
Then the plan will be presented to the Town Board, who in turn, will
have a public hearing to adopt the plan.
Dave Adams suggested sending the draft plan to the County
Planning Office before public hearings are scheduled.
Christy Schrader asked Dave Adams for clarification on his
suggestion of the items in the plan that is for review by the next steering
committee. Dave suggested putting these
items in Part 1. He believes there is
enough merit to them that they should not be forgotten. Christy said she doesn’t think they should
go in Part 1 because it then becomes part of the plan. It was agreed to include a reference in Part
1 for the items that were set aside in this plan, and to be reviewed by the
next committee in Part II and include page numbers.
Dave Adams noticed that in the draft plan zoning items were
Goal 6 and now they are in a separate section under Section 4. Dave Wood stated the committee edited that at
the last meeting trying to be consistent with numbering, and the committee felt
it flowed better this way. Dave Adams
said this is a Goal. It was agreed to
make it Goal 6 and also keep it in Section 4.
Dave Wood will make this change. Another thought Dave Adams had was that
when talking about famous people in Charlton’s past history, John Taylor, who
was the Speaker of the House of Representatives, should be included in that
history. Sandy Verola and Dot Mitchell
said they are working on the history now.
Dave Wood told the joint boards that Part 1 of the plan is
all the action items, and the information in Park II is the supporting
documentation. The complete document is
available at the Town Clerk’s office.
Part I is what will be given out to people. Dave said the committee was hoping to tie our comprehensive plan
in with the county plan and asked Alan Grattidge if he knew the status of the
county’s plan. Alan said they are
getting ready to adopt the plan. It is
currently in draft form and on the county website. Alan believes the county plan could be adopted by the end of the
year. Dave Wood said he believes our
plan is in sync with the county plan.
Dave Wood suggested going through the plan by looking at the
recommendations the committee is suggesting.
This should cover the main items that the plan is designed to
accomplish. Beginning on page 9, Goal 1
– Agriculture and Farmland, Dave said that in the survey that was distributed
to the town, the overwhelming item that people wanted was open space, keeping
farms, and rural character. Under Goal
1, number 2, Ray Black asked for clarification of “removing unreasonably
restrictive local laws and including agricultural values for real property
taxes.” Dave said Charlton doesn’t have
an “unreasonably restrictive law”. He
also said the state has figures they use every year for agricultural values. Anyone who qualifies as a farmer must make
$10,000 a year in sales and have seven acres.
That land then qualifies for ag value assessment which is in the range
of $300-$500/acre. If the farmer rents
the land out to someone else, the farmer extends that same benefit to the
person he’s renting the land from so they receive the ag values.
Under Goal 1, number 3, “town staff to become familiar with
the exemption of ag buildings in the State Uniform Fire Prevention and Building
Code effective January 1, 2003, and the ten-year exemption of new agricultural
buildings”, Ray Black said he doesn’t know what that means. Dave Wood said there isn’t a code that
applies to farm buildings. Alan
Grattidge stated that if a farm building houses livestock, you don’t need a
permit. If it’s a mixed use, they do
need a permit. Guy Mitchell offered to
seek information on permits as they apply to farms.
Number 7, “purchase of Development Rights…” Ray Black stated
that in addition to purchase of development rights, there is a concept called
transfer of development rights and he didn’t see that in the plan. Dave said the transfer of development rights
was discussed by the committee but it is not included in the plan. You need a larger area to do that and it was
defeated in Northumberland.
Goal 2 is Open Space/Environmental Resources. Under number 9, “encourage use of
development rights and easement programs…” was changed to read “encourage purchase of development rights
and conservation easement
programs…”
Goal 3 is Historic Buildings and Landmarks. Under number 1, the last word “Village” was
removed. Sandy Verola said the Historic
committee is studying other sites in town worthy of preservation and also is
working on the historic information for the plan. Scotch Church and Charlton Village are already on the National
Historic Register. Ray Black asked if
it is the intent to eventually create town centers in other parts of Charlton
and/or create other hamlets. Dave Wood
said this is looking to preserve the historical value to certain areas in
town. Dave Adams said that if there are
other areas in town where another hamlet was proposed, and it met with all the
zoning regulations and town laws, there is nothing to stop it. Dave Wood said that other desirable areas in
town where this could be done would not meet our current zoning laws and
wouldn’t be allowed because of larger lot sizes.
Goal 4 is Community Pride and Citizen Involvement. The
section in bold under Goal 4 was edited to read, “Encourage programs and
activities that continue to support responsive town government and make Charlton a rewarding
place to live. Number 3 was changed to
read, “Place special emphasis on
senior citizens…”
Goal 6
replaced what previously read Section 4.
Goal 6 is Zoning Ordinance and Subdivision Regulations. These items are recommended for action. Under number 1, PUD, Alan Grattidge stated
that could open up multiple dwellings on single parcels. He stated the town board struggled several
years ago with senior housing and settled on having one single family house per
parcel. Alan believes this is a major
change depending on the specifications.
Dave Adams stated there is a lot of work that has to go into a PUD and
it has to go before the planning board and meet their criteria. He reminded the group that the majority of
the respondents of the survey stated they want to preserve open space and do
not want to see their taxes raised.
Allowing PUD’s is one of the ways to do this without raising taxes. Under number 2, after considerable
discussion, it was decided to delete until a Certificate of Occupancy is
issued, at the end of the sentence.
It was felt that there are risks if the builder fails to follow through
with what he is suppose to do. An
attorney could argue the fact and claim that it states in our plan once the CO
is issued, the job is done. Ray Black
asked about water supply to a neighbor when a new house goes in. If the requirement is kept at two acre lots,
generally there isn’t an issue with water supply and a new well interfering
with the neighbor’s water supply. Dave
Adams and Marv Schorr stated that if there is a concern, the developer can be
required to run a draw down test and monitor the level of the adjoining
wells. This will determine whether
water from the new well is affecting adjacent wells.
Ray Black directed the committees attention to page 15,
number 1 under Items Recommended for
Study and Possible Action. It
reads, “Amend zoning to require evidence of an adequate water supply before a
building permit can be issued for a residence.” Ray believes that’s the better way of handling this. He doesn’t believe requiring someone to do
this as part of a subdivision is the right thing to do because they may not be
subdividing for a building. He believes
if the intent is for someone to build a house on a parcel, they shouldn’t be
issued a building permit until they can prove there is enough water and that it
doesn’t affect the neighbors. That’s
Ray’s recommendation. Dave Adams stated
that this item was aimed at a subdivision for building houses. He believes all the information on the water
would come out in the details and how the regulations are developed. Ray suggested that number 2 under Goal 6, on
page 14, be removed and strengthen number 1 under Items Recommended for Study
and Possible Action on page 15. Dave
Adams stated that the items on page 15 are not to be ignored. They require evaluation by the zoning review
committee and approval by the town board whether or not it should be
adopted. Dave Adams is going to review
number 2 under Goal 6.
On page 18, Section 4, Action Plan, this section summarizes
the actions recommended to achieve the goals and objectives. To implement the plan the zoning regulations
will have to be changed. Alan Grattidge
asked how the draft plan is going to be presented. Dave Wood stated the CPSC will have a public hearing presenting
the plan to the public. Guy Mitchell
asked the members of the town board if they are in agreement with the draft
plan. He stated if there is something
in the plan that the town board doesn’t agree with, the committee would have to
edit the plan before presenting it to the public. Alan Grattidge said the one area he has a concern with is the
details of the PUD. Conceptually he is
in agreement. Sandy Verola said she has
major concerns with the PUD section.
Bruce Gardner stated that he would like to read through the plan
again. Gary Vanderhorst said that before
going to the public with the plan, the committee would like the town board to
be comfortable with it. After much
discussion it was decided that a public hearing won’t be scheduled until after
the first of the year. Alan Grattidge
suggested putting the notice of the public hearing in the newsletter which
would go out in early February. A
synopsis of the six Goals could be inserted in the newsletter so the public can
see a shortened version before the hearing and it could go on the website. Also, the church may be a better meeting
place for the hearing because of its size and adequate parking. Dave Wood asked if there are members of the
town board who would be able to meet with some members of the committee to give
their input prior to the next CPSC meeting on November 6th, and then
any of the town board who would like to attend the November 6th
meeting are invited to do so. Meeting
was adjourned at 9:05 P.M.