COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING
STEERING COMMITTEE
MINUTES
MAY 1, 2006
Present: Comprehensive Planning
Steering Committee: Rick Smith, Dave Wood, Al LaRue, Gary Vanderhorst, Dawn
Szurek, Dave Adams, Sally Ellms, Christy Schrader, Maria McCulloch, Lynda
Battenhausen, Marv Schorr, Dot Mitchell.
Town Board: Alan Grattidge, Bruce Gardner, Sandy Verola, Bob Lippiello,
Doug Salisbury. Planning Board: Mark Hodgkins, Jay Wilkinson, Susan York,
Secretary. Citizens: Jeff Gregg, Jerry Belisle and Mary
Kadlechek.
Meeting was called to order at
7:00 P.M. by Dave Wood.
The first order of business was
to approve the minutes of last months meeting.
Marv Schorr made a motion to approve the minutes as written, Gary
Vanderhorst seconded. Motion carried.
Dave Wood condensed the Goals and
Objectives into a document that was user friendly and tried to eliminate
duplication. He went through the
recommendations and after each topic there would be discussion. The first topic Dave read through was Agriculture
and Farmland. Christy
Schrader suggested adding a tax advantage to landowners for preserving open
space, and not just landowners who rent their land for farm use. Al LaRue suggested putting a minimum lot
size on this tax advantage. After
discussion it was suggested using a 25 acre minimum lot size for this tax
advantage. All agreed this should be
included, and that the more appropriate section to include this would be under Open Space/Environmental Resources.
The next topic was Open Space/Environmental
Resources. It was recommended by Dave Adams that the first item under Open Space - (Place more emphasis on
building sites to include…), be moved to the last item under Zoning Ordinance and subdivision
regulations. It was also suggested
that this item remain with a notation that it is also repeated under Zoning Ordinance and subdivision
regulations.
Under “assure storm water
discharges comply with DEC regulations”, it was agreed upon to add “comply with
all local and DEC regulations.
Regarding “ask for oil/water separators from parking lots in areas using
well water”, it was agreed to delete this item because it will fall under
complying with DEC regulations.
Dave Adams recommended that under
“ask for conservation and cluster designs…” that cluster be removed. All agreed.
Dave also suggested putting in a statement at the end which states submittals
need to be in accordance with PUD requirements. All agreed.
It was suggested by Dave Adams to
include the non-farm tax advantage incentive for preserving open space in this
section, and wording to include the 25 acre minimum requirement.
The item that states “consider
the use of large diameter cul-de-sacs to minimize road cuts...” should also
include guidelines on the length of the road into the cul-de-sac. It was suggested this item be moved into
either Roads and Pathways or Zoning Ordinance and subdivisions
regulations.
Dave Adams had a few items he
wanted the committee to consider adding to the Plan. One is to amend zoning to require developers to submit
information on how they will ensure the availability of sufficient water and
water quality on property to be developed and on surrounding occupied
properties. He suggested this item go
under Zoning Ordinance and subdivision
regulations. Another suggestion
Dave had was that the town water district commissioners should determine if the
modification of the water district regulations is necessary to restrict usage
of public water supplies during water emergencies local to the Town of
Charlton. Currently the water supply
comes from Glenville and if they have a water emergency and they put
restrictions on water use, those same restrictions apply to Charlton. He suggests Charlton have their own
emergency restrictions. After
discussion with the committee, it was decided that this suggestion should be brought
up to the water district and not be a separate item in this document. Another item that Dave suggested go under Open Space/Environmental Resources or
under Zoning Ordinance and subdivision
regulations is to amend the zoning to include the latest minimum separation
distances for wells as required by NYS regulation. The current zoning is out of date.
Jeff Gregg asked if consideration
has been given to mapping important town areas such as ecological, environmental,
wildlife corridors, ground water, wetlands, etc. Dave said locating and mapping desirable areas in town with more
water, less water, scenic views, etc., has been debated. The general consensus is to not get site
specific for the fear that landowners rights may be infringed upon. Marv told Jeff there are overlay maps that
show natural characteristics on wetlands, streams, etc.
Dave Adams suggested setting up
an open space acquisition fund in the Town budget that wouldn’t result in any
new town taxes unless the voters approved them. He feels this should be in the Plan so the Town Board can give
consideration to this when budgeting funds.
Alan Grattidge believes this makes sense and that the Board can consider
making it a budget item in the future if necessary.
The next category was Historic buildings and Landmarks. Under the first paragraph which reads
“Form an advisory committee…” the third line down should be changed to add,
…”study other sites worth of preservation including, but not limited to,
the former hamlets…”. Everyone
agreed. Dot Mitchell suggested instead
of forming an advisory committee, add people to the existing historic committee
who have expertise in certain fields.
They wouldn’t have to attend every meeting; just be called upon when
their expertise is needed. Dave Wood asked Dot and Sandy Verola to work
on rewording this.
Under “Provide information and
assistance”… it was agreed to add wording so that it reads, “Provide
information and assistance for application to local, state, and the
national historic register for historic buildings and sites.”
Community Pride and Citizen Involvement was the next topic. The committee had no changes.
Roads and Pathways followed.
Under the third paragraph, “Assure adequate dimensions of cul-de-sacs…”,
it was suggested including an asterisk (*) to note that this item or concept
could be in more than one location, stating this particular topic could be
appropriate in another section, so that those reading the Plan know that this topic
is repeated. Everyone agreed. There were no other comments for this topic.
The next topic was Zoning Ordinance and subdivision
regulations. Under the first
paragraph, first sentence, remove the words clustering for so the
sentence reads, “Allow the use of Planned Unit Developments (PUD) to provide
for conservation subdivisions designed to protect farmland, environmental
resources and open spaces.”
On the second page of this topic,
the 5th paragraph, 3rd line in, the word stands
should be included so the sentence reads,…”stands and whether major farm stands
should contain…”.
Alan Grattidge asked if the idea
of the PUD was to have another mechanism for the Town Board to review a project
when it comes in, and then pass it on to the Planning board for review. Dave Adams said that the PUD would initially
come before the Town Board and if they think it’s a good idea, they would pass
it on to the Planning Board for their review and a recommendation back to the
Town Board for approval or disapproval.
The idea behind the PUD is to allow flexibility to what is in the zoning
ordinance for developments. The
developer would have to show that there is enough water supply and that the
septic systems would function properly.
Dave said an incentive bonus could be given to the developer to do these
things and he also said that the overall density could not be greater than what
is presently allowed by the zoning ordinance.
Alan stated the Planning Board attorney said you can tailor fit how you
want them to be on an individual basis.
It was suggested to put wording in the zoning ordinance that states
allowing a specific PUD does not set a precedent for the future.
Dave Adams said he would be
willing to further organize this section of Zoning Ordinance and subdivision regulations.
Dave Wood read a letter from Ray
Black, Chairman of the Planning Board.
The recommendations from the Planning Board were read to the
committee. There were many good
suggestions from the Planning Board, and after discussion, the committee feels
they have covered and/or included most of the suggestions into the goals.
There was a discussion about
walking trails in Charlton and the possibility of linking land together so
people have places to walk. It was
believed that residents would use walking trails as opposed to another
park. Charlton doesn’t have any
abandoned railroad rights-of-way that would make logical paths or walking
trails. There are no obvious places in
the town to put walking trails.
Dave Wood said he and Dave Adams,
and any one else who would like to, will summarize the comments from tonight’s
meeting and they will have it ready for the June meeting. If anyone else has any more comments, they
should get them to Dave Wood by May 15th. If the committee is satisfied with the revisions at the June 1st
meeting, it was suggested that the next logical step would be to have Nan put
the information together so the committee can review it at the July 1st
meeting. If the document Nan gives the
committee is suitable, then a public hearing can be set. Everyone agreed to keep the same format that
was used at tonight’s meeting. It was
felt that it was more user-friendly.
Dave Adams reminded the group
that even though some items that were discussed previously by the committee are
not included in the comprehensive plan, the items that were felt to be
important are in a category for future consideration and should be at the end
of the comprehensive plan.
Alan Grattidge said that after
the Plan moves into the adoption phase, the Zoning Ordinance Review Committee
will need to begin their work on reviewing/revising the Zoning Ordinance.
A motion was made by Al LaRue to
adjourn the meeting and seconded by Marv Schorr. Motion carried. Meeting
adjourned at 9:10 P.M.